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WEF’s ‘Great Reset’ Plan for Big Food is NOT good news…

GMOs, lab-grown protein & cocktails of pharmaceuticals await us

Jeremy Loffredo

The World Economic Forum’s (WEF) The Great Reset includes a plan to transform the global food and agricultural industries and the human diet. The architects of the plan  claim it will reduce food scarcity, hunger and disease, and even mitigate climate change.

But a closer look at the corporations and think tanks the WEF is partnering with to usher in this global transformation suggests that the real motive is tighter corporate control over the food system by means of technological solutions.

Vandana Shiva, scholar, environmentalist, food sovereignty advocate and author, told The Defender:

The Great Reset is about multinational corporate stakeholders at the World Economic Forum controlling as many elements of planetary life as they possibly can. From the digital data humans produce to each morsel of food we eat.”

The WEF describes itself as “the global platform for public-private cooperation” that creates partnerships between corporations, politicians, intellectuals, scientists and other leaders of society to “define, discuss and advance key issues on the global agenda.”

According to WEF’s founder and executive chairman, Klaus Schwab, the forum is guided by the goal of positioning “private corporations as the trustees of society” to “address social and environmental challenges.”

In July, Schwab published a 195-page book, “COVID-19: The Great Reset,” in which he challenged industry leaders and decision makers to “make good use of the pandemic by not letting the crisis go to waste.”

TIME magazine (whose owner Marc Benioff is a WEF board member) recently partnered with the WEF to cover The Great Reset and to provide a “look at how the COVID-19 pandemic provides a unique opportunity to transform the way we live.”

The Great Reset is meant to be all-encompassing. Its partner organizations include the biggest players in data collection, telecommunications, weapons manufacturing, finance, pharmaceuticals, biotechnology and the food industry.

The WEF’s plans for the “reset” of food and agriculture include projects and strategic partnerships that favor genetically modified organisms, lab-made proteins and pharmaceuticals and industrial chemicals as sustainable solutions to food and health issues.

For example, WEF has promoted and partnered with an organization called EAT Forum. EAT Forum describes itself as a “Davos for food” that plans to “add value to business and industry” and “set the political agenda.”

EAT was co-founded by Wellcome Trust, an organization established with funds from GlaxoSmithKline and which still has strategic partnerships with the drugmaker. EAT collaborates with nearly 40 city governments in Europe, Africa, Asia, North America, South America and Australia. The organization also assists the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) in the “creation of new dietary guidelines” and sustainable development initiatives.

According to Frederic Leroy, a food science and biotechnology professor at University of Brussels, EAT network interacts closely with some of the biggest imitation meat companies, including Impossible Foods and other biotech companies, which aim to replace wholesome nutritious foods with genetically modified lab creations.

“They frame it as healthy and sustainable, which of course it is neither,” Leroy told The Defender.

Impossible Foods was initially co-funded by Google, Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates. Recent lab results showed the company’s imitation meat contained glyphosate levels 11 times higher than its closest competitor.

EAT’s biggest initiative is called FReSH, which the organization describes as an effort to drive the transformation of the food system. The project’s partners include Bayer, Cargill, Syngenta, Unilever and even tech giant Google.

“Companies like Unilever and Bayer and other pharmaceutical companies are already chemical processors — so many of these companies are very well positioned to profit off of this new food business which revolves around processing chemicals and extracts needed to produce these lab-made foods on a global scale,” Leroy said.

In Schwab’s book, he discusses how biotechnology and genetically modified food should become a central pillar to repairing global food scarcity issues, issues which COVID has revealed and exacerbated.

He writes “global food security will only be achieved if regulations on genetically modified foods are adapted to reflect the reality that gene editing offers a precise, efficient and safe method of improving crops.”

Shiva disagrees. She told The Defender that the “WEF is parading fake science,” and “for Mr. Schwab to promote these technologies as solutions proves that The Great Reset is about maintaining and empowering a corporate extraction machine and the private ownership of life.”

EAT developed what it refers to as “the planetary health diet,” which the WEF champions as the “sustainable dietary solution of the future.” But according to Leroy, it’s a diet that’s supposed to replace everything else. “The diet aims to cut the meat and dairy intake of the global population by as much as 90% in some cases and replaces it with lab-made foods, cereals and oil,” he said.

Shiva further explained:

“EAT’s proposed diet is not about nutrition at all, it’s about big business and it’s about a corporate takeover of the food system.”

According to EAT’s own reports, the big adjustments the organization and its corporate partners want to make to the food system are “unlikely to be successful if left up to the individual,” and the changes they wish to impose on societal eating habits and food “require reframing at the systemic level with hard policy interventions that include laws, fiscal measures, subsidies and penalties, trade reconfiguration and other economic and structural measures.”

But Shiva said this is the wrong approach, because “all of the science” shows that diets should be centered around regional and geographical biodiversity. She explained that:

“EAT’s uniform global diet will be produced with western technology and agricultural chemicals. Forcing this onto sovereign nations by multinational lobbying is what I refer to as food imperialism.”

Originally published on The Defender, the newsletter of ChildrensHealthDefense.org

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Jake dilinger
Jake dilinger
Nov 22, 2020 9:43 AM

when this happens we the people need to stand up to these evil fucks they think they know whats best for everyone on the planet there going to make us eat garbage while they get to gorge on the finest organic food which will be produced by a.i robots so we can’t see what’s going on we need to fight against these fu ks when this shit goes down so many people are waking up and they know it thwy are trying to shove more fear into the public trying to put the population back to sleep when shit goes down i hope each and everyone of you will lay your life down for freedom i know I will

Michele
Michele
Dec 19, 2020 11:58 PM
Reply to  Jake dilinger

We need to fight these fucks NOW!

Waldorf
Waldorf
Nov 17, 2020 4:04 PM


The virus postpones the Second Coming.

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
Nov 17, 2020 6:01 PM
Reply to  Waldorf

He tried to return but was brutally tackled in a grocery store parking lot by a masked pack of bog-haunting ghouls..

Penelope
Penelope
Nov 17, 2020 7:09 AM

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/11/01/operation-warp-speed.aspx?cid_source=
After a few introductory moments this is disquieting, lots of new info. Investigative journalist Whitney Webb.

Jay
Jay
Nov 16, 2020 5:01 PM
paranoid goy
paranoid goy
Nov 17, 2020 2:02 PM
Reply to  Jay

is Trudeau a fascist? Yes, he activly promotes the interest of his own faction, therefor, fascist. Buy a dictionary, and use it, you would be surprised at th number of ‘woke’ terms you use incorrectly…
Like fascist and revisionist and blasphemer, all compliments when deliverd by an enemy. And Democracy has nothing to do with voting…imagine!

Martillo
Martillo
Nov 16, 2020 2:53 PM

NAZI Schwab and ilk inform us that common peasants should eat chemically poisoned filth while the filthy rich eat food. The time has come to feed the satanic pedovores to the wolves. We need to stop this cov ID 1984 garbage already. These people are evil as well as demented and tolerance of the ruling oligarchy because of their disgusting stolen wealth must stop if humanity is to survive in a form other than their satanic delusions. The evil mating of Monsanto aka Mon Satan (that has poisoned humanity with glyphosate) and the NAZI Bayer poison manufacturer, seems totally logical and gives a glimpse into the twisted world of these low life demons. We are no more than farm animals for these swine to be poisoned at will and sacrificed when we outlive our “function”.. Decent and informed people everywhere need to make their voices heard before this global Auschwitz… Read more »

-CO
-CO
Nov 16, 2020 4:34 PM
Reply to  Martillo

But in case you haven’t noticed Martillo globalism has already been unleashed in the quiet war being waged against humanity and has been for some time. I have stated several times that those who perpetrate war on the people must be removed from office so that the system works in favour for all people as opposed to the privileged few .

-CO
-CO
Nov 16, 2020 1:49 PM

Reply to Gezzah Potts
The Common Law Court is now international and as far as I know some Australians have already joined and also claimed ownership of their legal fiction. I suggest that people in the UK do the same to help restore justice before it’s too late.

Mr Y
Mr Y
Nov 16, 2020 1:02 PM

Lab grown meat?! Humans sure are a sad sort …

Kitty
Kitty
Nov 16, 2020 10:56 AM

How will this make a difference. We have been eating junk food for years. Fast food has been wreaking havoc on our health, animals and the enviro ment for years. It will be a good thing if people stopped eating meat.You can get all the protein you need from plant foods. I have been a vegetarian for over 30 years. As a child growing up in the 50s meat was a luxury, with chicken only eaten at Xmas.
Most. If not all meat, eggs, and diary
products are produced at factory farms. In factory farms animals are forced to
endure inherently cruel and inhumane
conditions that deprive them of all their basic instinicts. You don’t have to eat food laced with chemicals, we all have a choice what we eat, people need to exercise it.

Sandyfeet
Sandyfeet
Nov 16, 2020 6:05 PM
Reply to  Kitty

Most humans realize animal products are necessary to our bodies (D, B, Omegas, Iron, etc), and smart humane people chose non factory farmed animal products to consume. I’m going to raise ducks, chickens and 2 geese for eggs and meat. We will trade for organic grass fed beef. We garden. Humans are smart if given the opportunity and good skills training.

dr death
dr death
Nov 18, 2020 10:34 AM
Reply to  Kitty

if you think the supermarket filth you eat is bad now, wait till you you’re eating your dead relatives, freshly flavoured from their last vaccine all packaged and nicely presented, advertised on amazon global ® in between the amateur porn and served up by a schwab hologram on your echo V30.

Alexa I Would like…….

Penelope
Penelope
Nov 19, 2020 5:55 AM
Reply to  Kitty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY2v6AnEyuU  Study of the remains of primitive peoples shows that those who farmed had a great deal more skeletal pathology than those who hunted. Paleopathology. Entertaining video

May Hem
May Hem
Nov 16, 2020 4:52 AM

“The “Green New Meal” agenda is in full swing, as McDonald’s new “McPlant” and Purina’s insect-based dog food signal that multinational companies are using social engineering to push Fake Food to the masses — and world governments are complicit, with the UK mulling a “Meat Carbon Tax” just as predicted by Soros’ Food Chain Reaction Game. All of this was seen in predictive programming for decades, but is arriving now”

https://youtu.be/z8DKzldtKYQ

More info at this great site: https://www.iceagefarmer.com/2020/11/12/green-new-meal-new-mcplant-uks-meat-tax-fake-food-predictive-programming/

Mik
Mik
Nov 16, 2020 5:47 AM
Reply to  May Hem

Personally I believe it’s the other way around. We have had processed fake foods for decades. They don’t need to force it upon us. If they took away all the Crisps, sweets, cakes, soda, chocolate, sauces, sausages (other meats), buns and alcohol, tomorrow people would rise up against them. The masses are addicted to these fake foods already. By the sounds of it they are just putting a few more items on the menu.

I would say we have more pressing priority’s at hand. The last thing I am concerned about is whether or not MacDonald’s will be still serving us shit in a tray in the future. Do you really believe MacDonald’s are serving you fresh wholesome meals?

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Nov 16, 2020 1:44 PM
Reply to  Mik

The best trick they’ve pulled is to convince the general populace that all the processed shite that we are served up is a treat for us, when the reality is that it’s harmful and addictive junk. The indoctrination is all over the place and it starts from birth. People react very badly when you tell them that you don’t consume that stuff, like any addict who can’t accept that somebody else can be free of the addiction, they will do their best to tempt you back into it and to denigrate you as some kind of puritanical, fun hating maniac because you like to eat food that is nutritious and healthy instead of some shite that been made in a chemical factory and makes you feel terrible in the short and long term. There is no benefit from this stuff whatsoever, asides from a small dopamine hit. I’d honestly rather… Read more »

magumba
magumba
Nov 17, 2020 1:28 AM
Reply to  Mik

It wasnt that long ago when i could buy donkey burgers…did you forget those on your shopping list

paranoid goy
paranoid goy
Nov 17, 2020 2:10 PM
Reply to  Mik

The difference is, you will get nothing else, nothing.”
End World Hunger: Kill all the hungry.
Feed the World: Only we will feed the world, all other sources of food will be regulated out of existence.
Ensure food security: All the food will be locked up behind sturdy barriers patrolled by guns, to keep it out of rach of the unworthy.
People complain about conspiracies, butone should just listen properly when the cacastocratic scumbags talk down to us deplorables.

dr death
dr death
Nov 18, 2020 10:57 AM
Reply to  paranoid goy

these colostomy bags have been leaking wind for years, and brave idiots have been warning the bovine herd about the noxious gas coming their way for decades, but the herd were too busy bullshitting themselves care.

now run along and buy you cricket macmuffin and beetle juice.. it’s great ‘value’ the WEF has dictated so… and don’t forget celebrity swingers get me outa here on amazon global at 6am..

sam2
sam2
Nov 15, 2020 10:16 PM

https://summit.news/
What is the Great Reset
Delingpole

Tim Drayton
Tim Drayton
Nov 19, 2020 4:51 PM
Reply to  sam2

The following article at that link is also worth a look:

Top Pathologist Claims Coronavirus is “The Greatest Hoax Ever Perpetrated on an Unsuspecting Public”

Jodie
Jodie
Nov 15, 2020 5:34 PM

The whole issue of food scarcity is manufactured by keeping small producers out of agriculture and limiting it to huge farms that are not designed to he productive but to run at a loss picked up by the tax payer. This is done basically to drive up house prices and create dependence on supermarkets. There is large numbers of people who actually want to grow food but are denied land whilst most land sits basically idol, out of any serious productivity used merely to collect a little fire wood or pass some sheep thru now and again. These levels of productivity don’t meet the value it could be to a household that didn’t even grow anything. Play space for children, less strain on the water supplies, improved vitamin D levels and relaxation. There is all sorts of benefits from gardens even before you consider the potential to grow high quality… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Nov 16, 2020 5:15 AM
Reply to  Jodie

Even at the height of collective farming in USSR, the personal home gardens supplied a major and essential part of food. Large scale (gigantism) is almost inherently wasteful. It only persists through imposition, rigging, corruption and loopholes (e.g. imports) for the elite.

In many parts of the “Greatest Democratic Empire”, one or more of these are illegal: growing food on one’s own land, sharing or selling it, or fishing/hunting for peronal consumption. This does not apply to the elite.

rraa
rraa
Nov 15, 2020 5:27 PM

I don’t see it as a Great Reset as much as I see it as a frantic attempt to clutch onto a failing system which is about to collapse. Nor is the Great Reset going to work as chattering classes envision. They always forget about that pesky little Law of Unintended Consequences. Never in history have elites survived peasants with pitchforks.
It is true that the number of peasants (those who do real work) has greatly decreased and so have the number of pitchforks in circulation.This imbalance will be evened out as more and more people have nothing left to lose with the psychological and economic warfare (aka pandemic) being waged

byron weber
byron weber
Nov 15, 2020 7:29 PM
Reply to  rraa

Good response rraa, but the question arises, how are we to manifest an armed insurrection, pitchforks being an analogy from days of old? The Great Reset is about more than food, the WEF proposes stripping us of our humanity, lock downs, attacks on religion, family gatherings, basically any sense of community and civil rights we have. It is not unlike what happened in the middle ages, except the plan is global rather than regional. Any ideas, anyone?

rraa
rraa
Nov 15, 2020 10:03 PM
Reply to  byron weber

After an unpleasant encounter with a plainclothes police officer (3 of them actually) at a tiny, peaceful artistic protest, I feel for all those people who I see being arrested. No money for hospitals but plenty for thugs. Physical insurrection is a bad strategy as some poor people at the front of the line get hurt. I’ve seen videos in which 12 police surround one person and brutally drag them away as an example to the others. If the police / army themselves come to their senses and refuse to be cannon fodder.. that isn’t as far-fetched as it sounds.There isn’t money to pay them enough to turn on their own friends and family. The resistance will likely start in small towns where police are part of the community. One simple peaceful way would be for EVERYONE to not visit any corporate media site or turn on the TV. For… Read more »

byron weber
byron weber
Nov 16, 2020 9:21 AM
Reply to  rraa

rraa, are you afraid?

T.S. Elliot??? Come on, an out and out resistance is necessary to defeat these frightened globalist. An armed insurrection may not be the answer, but a technological attack could defeat them. Target the WEF and NGOs, take down their infrastructure with the very tools they have used to achieve their goals. They have weaknesses. Their 500 Swiss Army soldiers that have protected them during their Davos meeting would be useless. Their insanity can be defeated in a new world war to defeat a new world order. And then the Silicon plutocrats can retire to New Zealand or wherever.

Tim Drayton
Tim Drayton
Nov 19, 2020 4:57 PM
Reply to  byron weber

Before resistance can take place we have to win the ideological argument and convince a sufficient number of people what is really going on. Just now, the vast majority is fully taken in by the dominant narrative.

Mik
Mik
Nov 15, 2020 8:00 PM
Reply to  rraa

I agree, that’s why they have bought us off with furlough. In Australia we have Job Keeper in which most people were receiving $1500 per week (700 Quid). So for the first 6 months in most cases people were on a long paid holiday, so happy to go with the flow. In addition, people on befits got a raise, happy days. It’s not difficult to see they bought us off and have now extended that bribe for another 3 months. The ones we see in the streets in protest are for the most part the ones who have lost their livelihoods, houses, jobs, etc. It’s interesting the point you make about the peasants have decreased in numbers and the many now sit in the middle (comfortable). The powers understand this and it’s a game of keeping the balance of “haves and have nots” in their favor. The problem is the… Read more »

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
Nov 15, 2020 8:12 PM
Reply to  Mik

An idea to program us all to consume less and be happy without “Stuff”.
As a voluntary philosophy I subscribe to it. I use the minimum neccessary.
And I don’t dictate what you will do.
A lot of people saw globalization as us giving up quite a bit to help our global family. It was part of pitch.
Everything gets corrupted.

Mik
Mik
Nov 18, 2020 9:56 AM

I believe we share similar values. Like you, I live what I deem to be a modest lifestyle.

However, who gets to say what the definition of less/modest is? After all, the fact we on this forum have an internet connection and have time to talk politics suggests we are among the most affluent people on the planet. The vast majority are wondering where their next meal is coming from. We have the luxury of having a disposable income that goes way beyond shelter and a meal.

I guess the question is. Where are we going to be reset too.

rraa
rraa
Nov 15, 2020 10:17 PM
Reply to  Mik

Hypocrisy is the worst. The type who flies to a climate change conference halfway around the world in first class and then slaps a fuel tax on the minimum wage guy who drives to work because suburban transit sucks and he can’t afford a downtown rent. Macron may think it’s wonderful he’s squashed the Yellow Vests while he is busy bombing Mali these days. It is going to backfire big time.
Don’t have pitchfork (yet) but my broom is ready to sweep away the dirt!

mgeo
mgeo
Nov 16, 2020 5:25 AM
Reply to  Mik

They also gave handouts for jobless people in USA. Or claimed to. We know that those without homes or accounts are unlikely to have got them. Though mollified, the masses don’t know that the oligarchy ripped off far more for itself in many countries, beginning from 4Q19.

David G Horsmvan
David G Horsmvan
Nov 15, 2020 5:24 PM

I heard about this “Great Reset” and was trying to think of some spiffy ideas of my own to sort of contribute. I see someone else had the same idea: “An American academic has riled social media by urging people to steal and burn copies of a book about gender dysphoria, even while conceding that she’s never actually read the allegedly harmful volume. Grace Lavery, an associate professor of English at UC Berkeley, encouraged her Twitter followers to torch ‘Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters’ by Abigail Shrier, while reminding people to “be safe when you are burning books.” … “All you’re doing is removing a commodity from circulation – much as one might destroy a contaminated crop, or take action if a distributor failed to do so,” Lavery wrote. However, the professor cautioned against “defacing library books.” The message was a “clarification” of an earlier tweet, in which… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Nov 16, 2020 5:28 AM

You could use napalm.

Timmy75
Timmy75
Nov 16, 2020 9:28 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Oh, stop it, YOU.

Mucho
Mucho
Nov 15, 2020 5:02 PM

Big up to Richie Allen too, who is fighting the good fight. This show of his from last Sunday was funny

Guy
Guy
Nov 15, 2020 7:40 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Gods speed is all I can say .I am so tired of the fear porn .

Mucho
Mucho
Nov 15, 2020 4:12 PM

I recently mentioned the lack of legal action being taken in the UK against the corona fraud, but forgot about the Simon Dolan case, which Off Guardian has not reported on (?) but which is significant. Here are some decent vids about the case

Mucho
Mucho
Nov 15, 2020 4:13 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Keep Britain Free (Simon Dolan) Anti-Lockdown High Court Case Analysis 29/10/20

Mucho
Mucho
Nov 15, 2020 4:14 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Day 2 Keep Britain Free (Simon Dolan) Anti-Lockdown High Court Case Analysis 30/10/20

Boo Viner
Boo Viner
Nov 16, 2020 9:35 AM
Reply to  Mucho

That was suppose to be a thumbs up vote, not the thumb down that it displayed. 😭 WTH?! This was a great video and super informative. Thank You!

Muggles
Muggles
Nov 15, 2020 3:12 PM
Jodie
Jodie
Nov 15, 2020 12:59 PM

The anti health movement are in damage control trying to censor healthers. These injections are not vaccines but weapons designed to poison people and suck them into a fake health care system based on germ theory. The injections need to go and so does the fake health care system.

Magumba
Magumba
Nov 15, 2020 12:28 PM

disseminate widely…it may not last long

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425

I’m off to sharpen my pichfork and splice some nooses might make a few blazing torches as well for a complementary light show

mrbump
mrbump
Nov 15, 2020 11:06 AM

It seems that an awful lot of Off Guardian readers are libertarian capitalists. Or morons as I like to call them. I wonder why?

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Nov 15, 2020 1:12 PM
Reply to  mrbump

Maybe it’s you that’s the moron?

Mister Bump
Mister Bump
Feb 16, 2021 11:46 AM

Theres no place for capitalism. Its ruined the world and the planet. If thats what this site owner and most visitors of this site believe then I am afraid OffGuardian has no place in saving the planet and people from destruction. You can’t have capitalism without exploitation (of labour and resources). This isnt an idological left wing opinion its a mathmatical impossibility

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
Nov 15, 2020 8:20 PM
Reply to  mrbump

Expect a mix. Ditto on Greenwald.

Mister Bump
Mister Bump
Dec 3, 2020 5:22 PM

I do expect a mix. But an AWFUL lot are libertarian capitalists who like me are anti state but pro business

Mister Bump
Mister Bump
Dec 3, 2020 5:24 PM
Reply to  Mister Bump

Im not pro business, just anti state. To be clear.

David G Horsmvan
David G Horsmvan
Dec 3, 2020 10:15 PM
Reply to  Mister Bump

That’s a reasonable position I share. I guess I have a very left ideology but I am very interested in other points of view. Ideally I would get to cover them all but I have other duties to attend to. I am personally interested and the led to a more professional interest.
I find that with Glenn, and most thought leaders, I generally don’t subscribe to their professed ideological view.but that’s a good thing. For example, how can you not respect Chomsky? You might see the politics differently but I would sure hear him out.

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
Nov 15, 2020 8:21 PM
Reply to  mrbump

Lol. Did we forget Joe Rogan. The common man’s thinker.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 16, 2020 10:01 AM
Reply to  mrbump

Well it’s quite simple bumpy man. This entire scam is predicated on the notion that covid is a sign of the forthcoming doom of capitalism and so the lockdowns are presented as some kind of progressive move. The mighty Left contingent were so eager to swallow this, that they just leapt on it without a moment’s thought and so didn’t realise that the ones telling them how horrible the virus was were precisely the ones in charge of the whole rotten system. Add to this the relentless  association of all covid skepticism with the Right, with libertarians etc. and the smear that all these skeptics “put profits before people” and our bold Left will not even countenance any doubt. That would be so “uncool”. Thus did our marvellous Left become the attack dogs of capitalism. Which of course brings us back to you bumpy man.

Mister Bump
Mister Bump
Dec 3, 2020 5:17 PM
Reply to  George Mc

You seem to have cast ‘the left’ as one entity. And the ‘right’ as another. Should I therefore cast you as a ‘centrist’ and dismiss your argument with nothing more than snobbish othering?

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 3, 2020 6:51 PM
Reply to  Mister Bump

Well that’s rich considering that you started this whole exchange with the most intense example of “snobbish othering”:

It seems that an awful lot of Off Guardian readers are libertarian capitalists. Or morons as I like to call them. I wonder why?

As for me casting “the left” as one entity, all I did was to explain the nature of the propaganda exercise. (Though frankly almost every Left site I looked at swallows the shit.)

Ganesha Bulldozer
Ganesha Bulldozer
Nov 15, 2020 9:57 AM

The Wellcome Trust is openly masonic, as a glance at the facade of their HQ in London will reveal.

Dr Vandana Shiva has sadly but predictably failed to denounce the scamdemic, and has instead adopted the “green” party line that the “pandemic” is the result of environmental issues. This is less than a half truth and fails to get to the heart of the matter, which is the ostensible justification for the WEF plans for a “great reset”.
There is no pandemic unless you apply the WHO revised definition, which would make the flu a pandemic. The WHO has essentially declared humanity sick and the green movement is a monumental failure. Middle class self-absorbed hypocritical idiots!

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Nov 16, 2020 10:18 AM

Agree entirely G.

Klaus Kinky
Klaus Kinky
Nov 15, 2020 9:28 AM

Klaus Schwab, If you go into a society of blind people with eyes, nobody is going to believe that you have eyes. You must be having some mad illusion, eyes don’t exist. Nobody has eyes, how can you have? The enlightened person in the West will be condemned as mad. The West has never nourished the idea of enlightenment. It is against the society, against the religion, they have never bothered about it. Think about truth, that is allowed! That’s why in the West philosophy has grown to great heights and depths. But it is always thinking about truth. It is like madmen thinking about sanity, blind men thinking about light. However the blind man tries to think about light, he may create a big system of thought about what light is, but it is not going to be anything like light. For light, you need eyes. You cannot think… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 15, 2020 6:04 PM
Reply to  Klaus Kinky

”You cannot think about truth, because thinking will be done by your mind.How are you going to think about truth?” You don’t. You ponder what it could be. You question. ”In the East we say truth is the experience that happens in the state of no-mind.” What do you use to identify realisation or enlightenment if you put your mind away ? ‘‘There are so many believers in the world, but where is truth? There is this danger in belief, it makes you feel that you know the truth.” The danger is in not testing it and not seeking any further. ”But nobody is interested in truth, in fact they are all against it, because what will happen to all these politicians around the world who are constantly lying?” I’m interested in truth. Millions of others are too. Politicians aren’t. But why tar us all with that brush ? Why… Read more »

Klaus Kinky
Klaus Kinky
Nov 16, 2020 11:21 PM
Reply to  Klaus Kinky

Awareness has nothing to do with words. It is an existential act, not a mental act. Life’s problems, all the problems of life, are existential, they are not speculative. You cannot solve them by thinking, you can solve them only by living them. You may not have observed, whenever you think, what happens? Whenever you think, you are closed. All that is present drops. You move on a dream-path in your mind. One word creates another, one thought creates another, and you go on moving. The more you move in thinking, the further away you go from existence. Thinking is a way to go away. It is a dream-way, it is dreaming in concepts. Come back to the earth. Come back to existence. Life’s problems can be solved only when you become deeply rooted in existence. Flying in thoughts you move away from the roots, and the further away you… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 15, 2020 9:27 AM

Factors in the formation of Left COVID consciousness: 1 The Priming: The drumbeats have been sounding for long time that we are perched on the edge of a viral catastrophe. This has been an article of faith on the Left for some time now- apparently. I have always considered myself Left but I have not been groomed for the pandemic doom show so when some Left sites started to talk in a blase way about “The Big One” (i.e. the apocalyptic plague) it came as a surprise to me. Part of the irresistable allure of such a scenario is that it is presented as a weakness – indeed perhaps even the final weakness of capitalism. What red blooded Marxist could say no? 2 Shock and Awe: The announcement of doomsday. The tsunami of fear and horror. And an important adjunct: the appearance of scientific veracity. Thus we must have the… Read more »

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 15, 2020 10:24 AM
Reply to  George Mc

“I have not been groomed for the pandemic doom show” — it still escapes me how they groomed so many.

If one’s fully signed up to climate apocalypse and gets impatient, I can see how one might latch on to the next doom show that comes along. But surely that’s a small minority.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 15, 2020 7:12 AM

Under COVID a whole new humanity is being bred. The old community ties, already under severe threat with the atomisation of consumer capitalism, are now being totally shredded to produce a hive creature.

The hopeless and clueless Left cannot see this because they have been completely misdirected by the notion that COVID is a real threat to capitalism. They have no idea what is going on and still recline in that old complacent and bourgeois theatre of aforementioned capitalist consumerism. And what an irony that is! For it was always the Left who most depended on that illusion of democracy even when they were sneering at it.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 15, 2020 5:37 AM

Please take my two posts below, together… the message emanates from the same oligarchical source: the street thugs and “who’s for dinner”. See how often they attack diners, who have nothing to do with rival protesters, and often with cameramen there to film it? Are we meant to feel out of luck, on the run, too harried to eat, more hunted than hunter ?

Nothing is by accident. No one pays for this apparent “chaos” to be random. It is all expensive messaging.

Think of the Hollywood movies of recent decades… running from a killer, a virus, the rogue robots, the Satanists, the zombies, a sinking ship, or sitting like a duck as a meteorite or some catastrophe freezes the climate. Same message.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 15, 2020 5:06 AM

The article lacks an economic or business assessment of how this will work. Artificial meat seems to be a rather expensive, wasteful way of eating so why would anyone make that a priority?

It sounds like a fad. If Jack Dorsey wants to eat his own pickled toenail clippings or Bill Gates salivates when he looks at fetal tissue in a test tube, or Zuckerborg buys up five houses so he can stalk his twilight dinner like a psycho (which he does) is that the policy of these demented billionaires to feed us?

That’s not our dinner. More like we’re the menu

Edwige
Edwige
Nov 15, 2020 8:26 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Probably not, unfortunately. Firstly there are the usual tactics of initial cheap pricing to eliminate the competition followed by the ramping up when the alternatives have been obliterated. All backed up with saturation advertising.

Secondly, and more profoundly, you’re missing parts of how the Great Reset economy will function. Alleged pollution is going to be built into pricing so real meat will become massively expensive. Farm animals will also become viewed like bio-weapons, this was what bird and swine flu were all about. Finally, it will be impossible to shop more than 15 minutes away from where you live so forget excursions out to the outlying organic farm.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 15, 2020 4:27 AM

Antifa was quite restrained. Waited until families were walking home from the Stop The Steal rallies, before they attacked.

Hold your children close
https://twitter.com/VenturaReport/status/1327709465102209026

Best not to scream – it only excites
https://twitter.com/livesmattershow/status/1327740865545203717

Bloodied but, hey, check your privilege
https://twitter.com/livesmattershow/status/1327718273648037888

It’s Time to Heal, or perhaps time to heel
https://twitter.com/craigtdillon/status/1327743748999163904

It’s time to flee
https://twitter.com/livesmattershow/status/1327724712894541824

Don’t be black and try to earn a dime
https://twitter.com/livesmattershow/status/1327783385876602880

Or try to dine near BLM Plaza
https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1327744558894026766

You never know who might pull a knife
https://twitter.com/mattmiller757/status/1327795071408885761

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Nov 15, 2020 1:59 AM

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Boris has got loads of them, but Carrie is Woke. I have seen no convincing evidence, that she is not still a virgin. If she is a mum good luck to her. Kids are hard work.

Tony

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Nov 15, 2020 2:34 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

if you are a real mum your complete obsession is your child breast feeding him..You haven’t really got the time to DO The Likes of Domminic Cummings in between photo shoots…That does not mean you don’t get out, but you are always thinking of your Baby…First – and it ain’t Boris.

I have got a beautiful photo somewhere in my head and maybe a real photograph somewhere…

Of My Beautiful Wife, with her long blonde hair dancing gently with our Son when he was 3 months old at a festival in the summer.

We never left our kids behind,..they came with us.

They are a part of us.

These people are puppets on stage.

Tony

Grafter
Grafter
Nov 15, 2020 12:18 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Admin can you do something about this guy ? Maybe allow him one post a month ?

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Nov 16, 2020 6:16 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Make that six months.

Thom
Thom
Nov 15, 2020 8:22 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

There is quite likely something Monica Lewinsky-esque going on.

Timmy75
Timmy75
Nov 17, 2020 2:49 AM
Reply to  Thom

Close, but no cigar.

Voxi Pop
Voxi Pop
Nov 15, 2020 12:32 AM

https://worldchangebrief.webnode.com

Americans Demonstrate In DC/
Homeland Security Viper Nest/
Israel Killed Al Queda #2 In Aug/
Michigan Says Challenging Election Is Racist/
BLM Attacks Black Family/
Biden COS: Elections Rigged/
Covid Tests Fail Musk’s Tests

As to the topic – navigate to my page on Bill Gates and Worldwide Medical Tyranny to see a report on the extent of Gates’ control of global food resources

Mik
Mik
Nov 15, 2020 12:27 AM

What’s the surprise here? With the exception of the fresh produce section at your supermarket and the sections for whole grains and legumes. The rest, probably over 80% consists of heavily processes fake foods anyway. All the chips, sweets, cakes, bars, dips, vitamins, powders, tins, sauces, etc. People have been lapping this shit up for decades without complaining, why complain now? This is why we have more overweight, obese and sick people on the planet than any other time in history. As for the dead animal sections, these animals prior to slaughter have been constantly pumped with antibiotics, kept in very poor unsanitary conditions and fed on a diet of who knows what? Don’t believe the image on the pack showing a “happy animal” grazing solo in a field. These animals have been modified to make them grow quicker and bigger. They are treated like a commodity. I not supporting… Read more »

Myall
Myall
Nov 15, 2020 2:17 AM
Reply to  Mik

200% spot on

Successive governments fully back the industrialists and blocks all attempts to list these ‘who knows what’ chemicals on product labels.

People with underlying conditions are the ones being slaughtered by the new virus. What measures governments took to prevent these existing conditions from appearing in the first place? They did nothing before the pandemic to help*, and they are doing nothing now to help and remove the cocktail of Growth Hormones, Glyphosates and ‘who knows what’ from our diet –cocktails that disrupt the endocrine system and create many chronic health conditions.
But no, they are doubling down and telling us this shit is good for us, and we need more of it!

(* deregulations are one of the biggest contributors to the increase in chronic health conditions. Many of the deregulations are crimes against humans)

mgeo
mgeo
Nov 15, 2020 5:37 AM
Reply to  Mik

Agro-chemicals also impregnate grains, legumes and vegetables. GMO stuff is the worst. Governments collude with the GMO businesses that sue organic farmers, accusing the latter of unauthorised GMO usage when it is the businesses that deliberately pollute such farms. Cooking does not deactivatemost of these chemicals – nor those added into meat.

Mik
Mik
Nov 15, 2020 6:00 AM
Reply to  mgeo

This is very true.

We have local Organic Farmers that they have not put out of business yet. In fact, they have thrived in recent times.

These are not your “official tick of approval” Organics, since this inflates prices and holds the farmer to ransom. The produce I purchase has nibble holes in it from bugs feeding. That’s the “tick of approval” I look for. Not shiny perfect products.

In any event, you will be far better off with sprayed fresh produce, rather than meals in a can, cereals and other shit the passes for food these days.

mgeo
mgeo
Nov 15, 2020 8:33 AM
Reply to  Mik

Well said. In the largest bureaucracies including EU, the stuff that big supermarkets must reject include banana, okra, etc. that are “too curved”. The promotion of perfect fruits, vegetables and cooked foods alienates us from essential microbes, even as they push more poisons. Food waste is a related outrage.

Remove skin where you can. Soak if you can’t.

Ganesha Bulldozer
Ganesha Bulldozer
Nov 15, 2020 10:08 AM
Reply to  mgeo

Apparently a small £50 ozone generator can be used when washing the veg and the ozone will destroy the chemicals… haven’t looked into it.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Nov 16, 2020 6:27 PM
Reply to  Mik

Well most food is indeed unfit for human or even animal consumption, but those that want still have the choice of finding something worth eating if they really want to.

Klaus Schwab, Billy Gates and their nice WEF pals are simply looking to save you the expense and bother of traipsing around looking for some decent food.

Grafter
Grafter
Nov 15, 2020 12:16 AM

“There have now been 51,766 deaths in all settings within 28 days of a positive test, the fifth highest toll in the world. However, the number of fatalities mentioning Covid-19 on the death certificate is more than 67,000.”. (Source …Mirror)

More fear porn.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Nov 15, 2020 1:13 AM
Reply to  Grafter

What sort of gobbledygook is that?!

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Nov 15, 2020 2:31 AM
Reply to  Grafter

The other 15, 234 got *Raptured*… – *Official*…

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Nov 15, 2020 12:02 AM

This is spamming.
I don’t see why your son’s wife needs to spoken here about.
Have you no respect for privacy of others?
It’s coming across as inauthentic and deliberately to sabotage the stream of the comments
Why I don’t think you are genuine

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Nov 15, 2020 1:06 AM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

Tony is likely shilling for HMG, as a member of the Army’s disinformation unit, aka 77th Brigade. If Tony can block up the comments section with some nicely written nonsense, then that’s his job done. To add insult to injury he gets his wages paid out of our taxes. What cheek.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 15, 2020 1:40 AM

Or, he may just have gone mad…
Various emotional traumas can cause that.

If I knew him, I might feel sorry for him.
But since I don’t know him, I just ignore him and get back to the issue at hand as soon as possible.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Nov 16, 2020 6:33 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Being mad and a member of 77th Brigade won’t be a problem and is probably a requirement. After all, 77th Brigade are just a bunch of squaddies who think it’s fun to take pot shots at their own feet.

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Nov 15, 2020 12:01 AM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54947661

Covid-19: Labour calls for law to stop anti-vaccination fake news online

Labour is calling on the government to bring in emergency laws to “stamp out dangerous” anti-vaccine content online.

In a letter, Labour said there should be financial and criminal penalties for social media firms that do not remove anti-vaccine fake news.

Jesus H. Christ. But fairly predictable. Political willie-waving.

Grafter
Grafter
Nov 15, 2020 12:20 AM

Labour, Tory, Republican, Democrat politicians…take your pick. All overpaid Establishment shills.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Nov 15, 2020 2:36 AM

Ser Keir Starmer thought Black Men were damaging their own health by smoking spliffs… – That’s why he put so *Many* away as CPS in HMP, for their own good, you understand… – Yep, Yep!…

Magumba
Magumba
Nov 15, 2020 11:18 AM

Why do they need legislation…GCHQ are already doing it…ostensibly against ”forrin powahs” but you know i know they know and the butchers dog knows thay are at it against UK citizenry

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Nov 16, 2020 6:34 PM

Keir Starmer is on a mission to finish the job of destruction that Tony Blair started.

Myall
Myall
Nov 14, 2020 11:35 PM

Health Crisis? Here is the latest example of how Australia looks after the population in a time of Health Crisis and almost a year into managing a pandemic:

20 doctors had told management they would quit in February if they felt the issues had not been addressed

There is a health system in crisis in one of Sydney’s largest hospitals and busiest hospitals and that’s why we urgently need intervention from the New South Wales Government to get additional resources

Government Response:

The Australian Government to continue to provide lots of money to improve the health system in Papa New Guinea

This is just one example of what is happening in the public health system in Australia and other first world countries. This came about as another baby has died due to the a lack of access to operating theatres for caesarean births.

Edith
Edith
Nov 15, 2020 2:34 AM
Reply to  Myall

My local weekend paper tells me we are being sa

Edith
Edith
Nov 15, 2020 2:37 AM
Reply to  Edith

Not sure what happened there…we are being saved here in qld by the introduction of the ‘smart’ referral system…now what that actually means is beyond me but I suspect I am supposed to feel warm and fuzzy because the word smart has been employed…we know that means everything will be okay don’t we? Meanwhile of course they are not getting far with waiting lists and the like..

Myall
Myall
Nov 15, 2020 4:01 AM
Reply to  Edith

Usually, we call them and they give us the run around. Smart means this has been automated and we have no way to find out who is responsible for the stuff ups.

Smart also means the system/algorithm decides where on the waiting list the patients are placed, and how much misery needs to be imposed on the person seeking help/service.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Nov 16, 2020 6:52 PM
Reply to  Edith

Me and my knackered hip had been seeing the hip man at the local hospital for nearly two years and he kept saying, it’s bad so come back in six months and we will see what we can do. I saw him was last November and in May I got a letter to say my June appointment was cancelled and that after careful review it had been decided to discharge me. If I wanted to pursue things I could always go back to my GP and start all over again. Fat chance of that working. I won’t bothering with that and will limp on until the Covid-19 vaccine takes all the pain away.

EDITH
EDITH
Nov 16, 2020 9:30 PM

i am sad you have to go through this kind of rubbish – no doubt somewhere claiming to have a health service……. hips are not easy to live with when they have gone awol…have first hand knowledge of this. Can i recommend that if it seems help isn’t going to be available, you proactively take matters into your own hands. the biomechanics of gait is poorly understood in humans and correction via natural means like going barefoot, walking with more consciousness often helps issues. walking in water often strengthens errant muscles etc. i suspect one thing we are going to learn from all this covid nonsense is the govt has little interest in helping with anyones health – pretty obvious by now…….and vaccines help little……. so it really is up to us to be more proactive…… it is our body and there is no reason we cannot take more control… Read more »

Ganesha Bulldozer
Ganesha Bulldozer
Nov 15, 2020 10:11 AM
Reply to  Myall

They are clearly abolishing public healthcare while saying they’re keeping people safe.

Myall
Myall
Nov 15, 2020 12:22 PM
Reply to  Myall

How would Australia behave in Papa New Guinea if there was no competing Chinese influence over there?

Since its inception Australia has participated in almost every terror campaign led by the US. Yes, they are part of the global terror network. Respect for a native population has never featured in the Australian dictionary, until another competing country showed a different way of dealing with poorer nations. Australians would be rampaging throughout the island(s), looting and pillaging, and if there were not CCTV cameras, they would be massacring they natives as they are historically experienced in this area.

DunGroanin
DunGroanin
Nov 14, 2020 11:33 PM

The WEF can go take a running jump. It is just a not so high council of the zombie empire that is legless and armless now. The SCO and it’s various sub organisations are forging ahead and away from the ancient hagemons. The latest side of the coffin for the Ancient Anglo Imperialists and it’s leftover European precursors is erected at this auspicious time: With the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) The US has been the lead Imperialist for the last hundred years, it was setup 200 years ago to be – by the same Pathocracy that has had its way for centuries. The EU has matured and survived to set the model of escape from that now US led hegemony. The lid goes on the zombie empire when the EU/SCO and the various sub groups that have Russia /China as centres of these alliances, treaties, trade outside of $… Read more »

Mucho
Mucho
Nov 14, 2020 11:21 PM

Reiner Fuellmich and Rocco Galati are teaming up with many others as the German Corona Committee start to get stuck in to the legal procedures

Guy
Guy
Nov 15, 2020 2:05 AM
Reply to  Mucho

Gods speed is all I can say .I am so tired of the fear porn .

Ort
Ort
Nov 14, 2020 11:13 PM

In a way, this article was unexpectedly gratifying.

It gave me a frisson of nostalgia at the prospect of the visions of Tomorrowland of my youth (c. 1960) coming true.

I had just about given up on the prospect of tooling around in my personal bubblecopter, and eating sumptuous repasts of rich and varied dishes all manufactured from tasty plankton.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 14, 2020 10:50 PM

The ones behind this covid manoeuvre must have realised that vast numbers of the population and of the medical establishment would not be taken in by it – and those who are may come to reject it. But that would not worry the tricksters as long as they have control over the MSM – most importantly control over TV. The most blatant contradiction between the news and what is actually happening to most people may not register even to most people as long as they are spellbound by this MSM. Or they may even wake up completely …and still that covid chant goes on without permitting any other voice or view.

Paul
Paul
Nov 15, 2020 12:35 AM
Reply to  George Mc

The politicians, mainstream medicine and the media have actually told people what is going on but they choose not to see it.

Underneath the death totals they publish they openly admit that a covid death is those who have died of any reason within 28 days of a positive PCR test, that we all know can’t and isn’t testing for a virus.

Ganesha Bulldozer
Ganesha Bulldozer
Nov 15, 2020 1:27 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Social media is just as important in preparing the ground by destroying real life socialising, dividing people and making them feel deeply insecure. Now they are lapping up the disinfo and fear porn dished out by the Borg ( goolag, fakebook, twatter etc) and falling over themselves to be “informed” and “smart” and of course SAFE.

Every other Dick and Jane who thinks he/she is smart because they can play the sociala media game think they are following the “science” and fancy themselves as modern citizens of the hi-tech connected world, not realizing their belief system is no different to that of people in the middle ages and their beliefs about the causes of plagues.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Nov 14, 2020 10:33 PM

@Tony

I still don’t get these anal-retentive fuckers who hurl abuse at your posts… ironically like the arse-clenched control freaks (a la Gates and Schwab et al but powerless) whom sites like this are dedicated to opposing. If the grumble-fucks don’t want to read what you have to say, they can scroll past; are they implying that they read every single comment posted and therefore resent having you add to their self-imposed work-load? (laugh) Or are they simply targeting your posts and complaining, after the fact, that they read them? Fucking far nuttier than they are ever likely to admit to themselves. And meanwhile contributing fuckall to the conversation.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Nov 15, 2020 1:12 AM

Are you sitting at a desk next to Tony? Or maybe you are Tony’s other half.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Nov 15, 2020 8:57 AM

Nah, I just don’t get angry at idiosyncratic behavior and I’m also against what the Germans call “mobbing”.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 15, 2020 1:47 AM

I think the point is that Tony makes himself conspicuous, by:
a) being a regular here
b) putting up his tastes in music and details of his family and romantic life without regard for the content of the article in question.
At first, one is tempted to read his comments, since there’s a cosy domesticity to his style, but after reading 6 or 7 of his offerings, one begins to feel his narcissism has no place here.
If even five of us did what he does, this site’s comments sections would become a laughing stock.

martin
martin
Nov 15, 2020 9:11 AM
Reply to  wardropper

What I noticed is for someone purporting to be the ‘human face’ he does not actually relate to anyone posting here. I just scroll down, promoting Gorden with an e was a give-away. ..that was clever how they took out gordon with an o with a dumbed down pastiche. Maybe same hack writer..

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Nov 15, 2020 9:12 AM
Reply to  wardropper

“If even five of us did what he does, this site’s comments sections would become a laughing stock” More than five of us regularly post comments that are twice as long as Tony’s and four times as wide… and at least two of those commenters usually say very little in the process. If we judge by word-count and not vertical displacement, Tony is not, by any measure, the biggest “offender,” but it’s become a sport around here to hurl abuse at him. Again: in my opinion, that mirrors the control-freakery of TFIC. I’ve never liked bullies IRL and often intervene where I see it happening. Quite a few of Tony’s comments are entertaining and embody the kind of Free Spirit, Fuck-the-Straights, Live-Life-Before-It’s-Over vibe that the world is bleeding out at an alarming rate. Be The Change You Want To See and all that. Denouncing a comrade for being Quirky and… Read more »

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Nov 16, 2020 7:23 PM

Tony’s posts give me the impression of being something he has just picked up out of his in tray. They are nicely written, but formulaic and almost invariably irrelevant to the subject at hand. Someone is blocking up the comments section here, as a deliberate tactic. Not too hard to work out who would do that.

Steven Augustine
Steven Augustine
Nov 16, 2020 8:46 PM

“Someone is blocking up the comments section here, as a deliberate tactic.”

If that’s Tony’s mission, he’s doing a very poor job of it: it takes less than three seconds to scroll by his longest posts, as far as I can tell. People calling for his posts to be banned or put under some kind of posting-limit are just control freaks. I don’t post here (or read here) in order to to make friends so I’m quite free to point out how petty/ neurotic these self-righteous little obsessions look, from a rational distance, and how they are clearly the “adult” version of the Lord of the Flies playgrounds we knew as kids. And, again: if the control freaks had any power they’d do exactly as Gates and Schwab are doing. Live and Let Live, eh? Try it.

Howard
Howard
Nov 14, 2020 10:19 PM

I’ve noticed from months of reading comments here that quite a few Off-Guardian readers are well placed economically (I’ve noted how many rue having their plans to visit some island off Greece ruined by the COVID ghoul).

This is particularly pertinent regarding Food. Many people – including some who post comments here – do not have the means to dine a la Organic Goodness. We do so when we can; but for the most part must settle for what we can afford – which is to say, for GMO laced food that our “betters” would never deign to ingest.

Undoubtedly, we will pay dearly for our failure to have inured to the “good life” of plenty. But on the other hand, we just might be better adapted to survive the lab rat food which, sooner or later, will grace everyone’s table.

As they say, Time Will Tell.

tish
tish
Nov 14, 2020 10:26 PM
Reply to  Howard

well said

Jodie
Jodie
Nov 15, 2020 12:07 AM
Reply to  Howard

Impossible burger costs like 3$ or more each. that’s before you buy any bun or toppings. It’s not exactly cheap food. you can get 3 kgs of oranges for that. much healthier. you would have to be seriously broke to really actually need to buy junk. people just don’t seem to think food is worth spending any money on for quality and buy convenient stuff they don’t need to prepare. they spend more on luxuries then they do on food.

Howard
Howard
Nov 15, 2020 3:08 PM
Reply to  Jodie

I eschew junk food (sorry, but I can’t resist the word “eschew” used in connection with food). Yes, there are healthy foods available to even poor people – but not necessarily organic. And even organic doesn’t always mean no GMOs.

Every morning I have oatmeal (not the instant, of course) – so you can imagine how thrilled I was to learn oats are dried with glyphosate. And that’s my point: food that in and of itself is healthy is rendered unhealthy through the processing procedures.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Nov 16, 2020 7:48 PM
Reply to  Howard

Organic oats are not supposed to be dried with glyphosphate and they are usually little more expensive than non-organic brands.

Ganesha Bulldozer
Ganesha Bulldozer
Nov 15, 2020 1:31 PM
Reply to  Howard

Adaptation takes many generations, and in case of GMOs and toxic chemicals, may never happen. How much do you spend on alcohol compared to healthy foods?

Howard
Howard
Nov 15, 2020 3:00 PM

There are certain healthy foods I’ve made part of my regular diet: grapefruit, blueberries, bananas, potatoes, peas. I refuse to take statins as much because I’d have to give up grapefruit as because statins are generally bad medicine.

Blueberries are a mixed bag in that they are monstrously seasonal unless you wish to buy them from South America (which I do). I read where produce should be as local as possible because of the synergy factor.

Even though I would probably benefit from red wine because of my heart problems (genetic), I loathe alcohol – literally, I can’t stand the taste of alcohol. Except for gin, which plays havoc with my stomach so I won’t go near it.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Nov 16, 2020 7:38 PM
Reply to  Howard

As a general rule with poisons the less eaten the better things will be. If we have to eat pesticide laden Frankenfood, then better to start doing so as late in life as possible.

Cloudster
Cloudster
Nov 14, 2020 9:56 PM

Where do we sign up to overthrow this stupidity.

Jodie
Jodie
Nov 14, 2020 10:05 PM
Reply to  Cloudster

The only real solution is to walk away.

Joe Gronan
Joe Gronan
Nov 14, 2020 9:24 PM

Who or what is EAT? Is that an acronym? Please identify the organization you referred to.

Anticitizen one
Anticitizen one
Nov 14, 2020 11:46 PM
Reply to  Joe Gronan

It’s a 2 way acronym. Elites allowed truffles, electorate allowed turds.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Nov 14, 2020 11:58 PM
Reply to  Joe Gronan

Edible Alien Tits

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Nov 14, 2020 9:21 PM

When the pubs were open

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Nov 14, 2020 9:19 PM

When the pubs were open, and you could dance for free and shout at the band, I would occasionally meet the drummer – and we would give each other a hug. I know now he is really old..I think he maybe even older than me… I ask him, but you still look exactly the same, as you did 25 years ago.. How do you do it? I think it might be something to do about playing drums nearly every night in Bands….but he said you don’t look so bad yourself. Both of us have fot lots of hair growing out of our heads..but he is a natural..He doesn’t need hair dye, nor anything to tart up his Face Neither of us have ever needed makeup. Its just that I can’t play drums, guitar or sing But I can still Dance. Can we please start doing this again please? These Arseholes,… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 14, 2020 9:19 PM

And still I search for more critical Marxists. Could they be here?: https://www-theleftberlin-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.theleftberlin.com/amp/how-should-marxists-view-the-covid19-pandemic-of-2019-2020?usqp=mq331AQQKAGYAajlp_KtufO9dbABIA%3D%3D&amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1#aoh=16053873494728&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&csi=0&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theleftberlin.com%2Famp%2Fhow-should-marxists-view-the-covid19-pandemic-of-2019-2020%23aoh%3D16053873494728%26referrer%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%26csi%3D0 No. The case for skepticism or even caution is ruled out by citing Donald Trump as the only named example of a skeptic. Any Marxists foolish enough to take a similar approach are “misguided” and have to be put right: “A Short Response to Some Misguided Marxist Responses Marxists train themselves to become highly critical, and this is an extremely important and good thing. It challenges those who pretend to be socialists but are simply waving a ‘false flag’. Uncritical thinking, fosters a slave mentality, it enables capitalism. However at times Marxists become somewhat paranoid that everything being proposed by capitalist agencies (perhaps including the WHO) are entirely obfuscations and myths.” No, nobody, Marxist or otherwise, is saying that EVERYTHING being proposed by these agencies are entirely obfuscation and myths. But having drawn up that straw man… Read more »

THX-1154
THX-1154
Nov 14, 2020 9:41 PM
Reply to  George Mc

be careful that you don’t get stuck in the slime trail that these “marxists” leave behind them, as they crawl around searching for crumbs of rotting soylent-green that their deep-state overlords might have thoughtfully tossed out for them. even slimy invertebrates need to feed, sometimes.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 14, 2020 10:30 PM
Reply to  George Mc

There are a number of slimy manoeuvres in that link. Take this: “The labeling of this epidemic as a “hoax” by President Donald Trump is naturally, completely unwarranted.” “Naturally”? This sets the tone for the entire Biblically ordained origin of the virus whereby the existence of covid as the End-Of-Days plague is simply presupposed with the corresponding banishment of all doubt. But – here is the brilliance of it – this devious move is hidden by reference to Trump. In focussing the attention of the Marxist audience on Trump (a well-established hate figure) the “canonization” of the virus is sneaked in. And of course Trump is the sole named demonic figure. All skepticism is fused in him and embodied by him. But what is most fascinating about the article is that there is a very clear anxiety. After all, the article admits the existence or, at least, the possibility, of… Read more »

ginghiniagenie
ginghiniagenie
Nov 15, 2020 2:06 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Well said.

Ganesha Bulldozer
Ganesha Bulldozer
Nov 15, 2020 1:36 PM
Reply to  George Mc

muppets of Greater Israhell.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 14, 2020 8:49 PM

Trump Visits Million MAGA March
Maybe Biden will come out of his cowerin’ bunker

Washington: https://banned.video/watch?id=5faff7bce7557c36551b6fd4

New York rally live on CrowdSourceTheTruth

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Nov 14, 2020 8:35 PM

“And yet, in the midst of this bleak picture, this apparently unstoppable advance of the “Invisible Enemy,” an element of hope emerges. The adversary does not know how to love, and it does not understand that it is not enough to assure a universal income or to cancel mortgages in order to subjugate the masses and convince them to be branded like cattle. This people, which for too long has endured the abuses of a hateful and tyrannical power, is rediscovering that it has a soul; it is understanding that it is not willing to exchange its freedom for the homogenization and cancellation of its identity; it is beginning to understand the value of familial and social ties, of the bonds of faith and culture that unite honest people. This Great Reset is destined to fail because those who planned it do not understand that there are still people ready… Read more »

Hector
Hector
Nov 14, 2020 9:42 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Dear Vatican
Please make this man the Pope and give the Jesuit stooge the heave ho.
Yours
Hector (a non-Catholic)

Paul
Paul
Nov 15, 2020 12:44 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Far too much credit is given to WEF, WHO, Gates etc.

They are not intelligent. I’d say they are pretty stupid.

This virus hoax is so easy to discredit. It takes minimal intelligence.

The issue is people are just too lazy to do their own research or ask the right questions.

All you have to do is submit a FOI request and then you find out there is no virus, the test used to diagnose this bogus virus can’t test for it and there’s no evidence to support any of the restrictions.

They prey on people’s gullibility.

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 15, 2020 1:51 AM
Reply to  Paul

I think the credit is only given to the staggering power their money wields.

Their intelligence is obviously highly unremarkable…

ginghiniagenie
ginghiniagenie
Nov 15, 2020 2:16 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Spot On. Talltaleheart is good on this:

Listen to Sweet Wittie Souls by Talltaleheart on #SoundCloud
https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/Xpax

Researcher
Researcher
Nov 14, 2020 8:21 PM

As someone who cooks everything from scratch, it infuriates me that these criminals are intent on making quality ingredients and organic food scarce, to intentionally deprive populations of the nutrients they need to be healthy and disease free, justified using climate change fraud and faux pandemics.  Chemically grown food contains up to 80% less flavonoids than organic fruits and vegetables, making their nutritional value negligible.  The processing and genetic modification of food, soil depletion, chemical additives, heavy metals in soil and water, antibiotics and endocrine disrupters are contributing to the high rates of chronic inflammation in western diets, which is the cause of most diseases including the cancer.  The epicyte gene in corn causes sterility, and now there are “edible vaccines” in foods.  These foods will induce disease not health, which is how the circular economy of pharma, the medical system and agribusiness create profits, by intentionally sickening people: It’s… Read more »

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Nov 14, 2020 8:36 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Plus they know junk food is highly addictive and there’s no way to try stop the avalanche of modified foods if they make the masses crave only the sterilizing foods.
I’m lucky I have a few places for local products and organic foods but they are getting more expensive and I’m sure they will be squeezed out of business in the future.
They don’t want a healthy and free population
They want a sick and easily controlled population

mrbump
mrbump
Nov 15, 2020 11:14 AM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

If everyone ate organic food we would all starve. That we don’t is why you can still afford it.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Nov 15, 2020 11:47 AM
Reply to  mrbump

If everyone grew their own food no one would starve. Simple.

Mister Bump
Mister Bump
Dec 3, 2020 5:09 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

If everyone had free food nobody would starve. never mind explaining HOW eh! All those people living in urban tower blocks just need to grow their own food in their massive gardens full of livestock and veg!

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Nov 16, 2020 7:55 PM
Reply to  mrbump

You are peddling Big Ag fallacies.

Aethelred
Aethelred
Nov 19, 2020 12:24 PM
Reply to  mrbump

Everyone did eat organic food for thousands of years. They survived and thrived. They are our ancestors. We don’t suddenly need chemicals and genetic tampering “to survive.” Fear and lies begone.

Mister Bump
Mister Bump
Dec 3, 2020 5:12 PM
Reply to  Aethelred

That was when the popuation was a 10th of what it is now. We also had famines because there were crop failures and plagues. You certainly can’t have organic meat for 7 billion people. We can’t do it with factory farmed mass produced meat.

May Hem
May Hem
Nov 14, 2020 10:13 PM
Reply to  Researcher

And along with forced fake foods I suspect there will be a land grap with attempts to privatize productive land – for exclusive use of the billionaire’s club. The enclosures all over again.

I’ll stick to permaculture.

May Hem
May Hem
Nov 14, 2020 10:24 PM
Reply to  May Hem

Also attempts to ban organic farming, especially community and small farms.

mgeo
mgeo
Nov 15, 2020 6:01 AM
Reply to  Researcher

The circular economy you mentioned encompasses almost everything. E.g., for transport, we can no longer walk km’s or cycle 10s of km’s even if we wanted to. The industries that benefit include highways, cars, mining, fuel, insurance, etc. This is related to urban sprawl (a major target of finance) that alienates us from farming and makes us slaves of the manipulative market. The whole thing is an insane house of cards.

Magumba
Magumba
Nov 15, 2020 12:22 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Huge plus for mentioning Epicyte….the food chain will be our downfall NOT the vaccine…the vaccine will just be an facilitator….corn on the knob anyone ?

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Nov 16, 2020 7:57 PM
Reply to  Magumba

Bad food and unnecessary dodgy vaccines, now why would they want that?

livingsb
livingsb
Nov 14, 2020 8:21 PM

Just wonderful news everywhere you turn these days.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Nov 14, 2020 8:11 PM

They are completely taking the piss. A vaccine that they haven’t developed yet, to prevent the common cold, and this new one has to be dleivered and stored on dry Ice or it wil it will turn into a slime, that is too thick it won’t go through the needle ..And The Stock Market goes up 5% on the announcement of this “wonderful” news – and you all lbelieve it..????? “Dry ice is the solid form of carbon dioxide. It is used primarily as a cooling agent. Its advantages include lower temperature than that of water ice and not leaving any residue (other than incidental frost from moisture in the atmosphere). It is useful for preserving frozen foods where mechanical cooling is unavailable.” “Dry ice sublimes at 286.37 °K or −78.5 °C (−109.3 °F) at Earth atmospheric pressure. This extreme cold makes the solid dangerous to handle without protection due… Read more »

Paul
Paul
Nov 15, 2020 12:45 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

How did they create a vaccine for a virus that doesn’t exist?

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Nov 15, 2020 11:48 AM
Reply to  Paul

Because it’s not a vaccine is it…

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Nov 16, 2020 8:00 PM
Reply to  Arsebiscuits

No it isn’t snd of course, they will all have nothing to do with preventing infection from an ephemeral coronavirus.

Ganesha Bulldozer
Ganesha Bulldozer
Nov 15, 2020 1:53 PM
Reply to  Paul

This kind of question, while valid, is not the right tactics. We must focus on the scam that is the PCR test, as everything is based on that.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Nov 16, 2020 8:03 PM

The scam will soon be driven by vaccines and they will then put their foot on the PCR test brake, so as to provide evidence that the vaccines are working.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Nov 16, 2020 7:58 PM
Reply to  Paul

Good question.

mrbump
mrbump
Nov 15, 2020 11:24 AM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Nobody is going to be injected with dry ice or any frozen gas. Dry ice is there to prevent the regredation of mRNA in transit. Which is stored in pure water. The vaccine is mRNA and water. RNA out the cell degrades rapidly. That’s why it must be frozen to -80 until use. Vaccines that are not require slime.

Ganesha Bulldozer
Ganesha Bulldozer
Nov 15, 2020 1:51 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

The dry ice is not in the vaccine. The sealed vaccine containers will be placed in larger containers with dry ice, that’s what they mean. Since the vaccine is a scam, this is most likely just another deception to give the impression that the stuff is fresh and vital..

paul
paul
Nov 14, 2020 8:04 PM

Sounds great.
We can all live in pods and eat bugs with non stop gay anal sex for everyone..

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Nov 14, 2020 8:19 PM
Reply to  paul

Everyone? Women can’t have ‘gay anal sex’ unless someone wears a strap-on.

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 14, 2020 9:19 PM

I wasn’t enjoying this sandwich anyway…😯

tish
tish
Nov 14, 2020 11:40 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Put the sandwich down it may be spam !

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Nov 16, 2020 10:38 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

🤣🤣🤣🤣 You made me laugh!

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 14, 2020 9:20 PM

wasn’t vulva people a 1968 Russ Meyer movie

tish
tish
Nov 14, 2020 11:31 PM

Mmh all foetuses are female up until 7 weeks gestation. approx….after that time should a foetus have a Y chromosome the rudimentary ‘clitoris’ becomes a penis and rudimentary ovaries become testes. Testes stay in ovary positon until shortly before birth and then they descend to the scrotum….which can be associated with a vulva. There are variants of sex chomosomes XX XY the norm for female and male. However there are some cases of whole chromosome anomaly eg X Turner’s Syndrome always female but do need hormone at puberty for breast development and menarche. You can also get XXY or XYY the former classed as female and they do have female anatomy and have breast development and menarche without hormone therapy. XYY are clased as male the anatomy is male. If you do get a baby born with unidentifiable gender….they are usually classed as female. I am unsure about ladydick is… Read more »

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 15, 2020 3:44 AM
Reply to  tish

All this talk of enlarged clitorises( or is that clitori), extra breasts, lady dicks and various chromosome sequences is far too exciting for me. It should ne XY rated .

I blame the vulva havers.

Today I’m identifying as a black lesbian cross dressing vulva having ovary fancying non-muslim anti- blood sports vegan.

If that makes me anti semitic so be it.

tish
tish
Nov 15, 2020 12:41 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

I was marked as spam when I wrote comment and I can’t spell, sadly….. so it may well be that clitori is the plural….not being able to spell holds me back from commenting on many things….

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 15, 2020 5:42 PM
Reply to  tish

Just go for it..as long as you don’t talk any tish 😉

tish
tish
Nov 15, 2020 8:29 PM
Reply to  JuraCalling

carry on the good work !

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Nov 15, 2020 11:48 AM

You solved the gay anal sex problem with your reply.

livingsb
livingsb
Nov 14, 2020 8:20 PM
Reply to  paul

Sounds like….HELL.

Hector
Hector
Nov 14, 2020 8:33 PM
Reply to  paul

Well I for one will not be living in a Pod!

JuraCalling
JuraCalling
Nov 14, 2020 9:21 PM
Reply to  Hector

so it was the pod bit that shocked you 😉

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
Nov 15, 2020 11:50 AM
Reply to  JuraCalling

Everything else was acceptable even mass genocide. But the buck stols at the pod.

Howard
Howard
Nov 14, 2020 9:58 PM
Reply to  paul

Those who want to eat bugs had better hurry, before the insect population has been completely eradicated by geoengineering and the climate crisis the elites misrepresent for their own enrichment while many deny because it doesn’t fit their ideology.

JonneyRipe
JonneyRipe
Nov 15, 2020 9:36 AM
Reply to  paul

Do the pods come in a range of colors?….. Just asking for a friend.

Ganesha Bulldozer
Ganesha Bulldozer
Nov 15, 2020 1:54 PM
Reply to  paul

who you gonna have non-stop sex with if you’re isolated in your pod, and who mentioned gay sex other than you??